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| - | Quality Management is not a support process. | + | ==COMMENTS ABOUT THE MAP OF THE PROCESSES== |
| - | Quality Management starts from the contract requirements | + | |
| + | Quality Management is not a support process, it is the work done by the role of the quality manager. | ||
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| + | Quality Management starts from the contract requirements, it is developed during all the project stages, includes suppliers organizations and supplies, includes the design process, the fabrication process, the delivery process, includes the way in which the project satisfies the customer needs and requirements; includes also HR management, risk management and improvement of the organization, in practice all the processes. | ||
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Quality Management uses Project Management as a tool to obtain quality results. | Quality Management uses Project Management as a tool to obtain quality results. | ||
| - | In my skeleton (Powerpoint Presentation) there was a "quality planning" support process, which is different from quality management; it is defining (and planning) the processes that will be used during the project to obtain quality. | + | |
| - | Non conformity management is at the end of an activity, when you look at the results, at the product; so it | + | In my proposed skeleton (Powerpoint Presentation) there was a "quality planning" support process, which is different from quality management; it is defining (and planning) the processes that will be used during the project to obtain quality. |
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| + | <font color="blue">Comment: --[[User:Leonard|Leonard]] 16:43, 14 August 2008 (CEST) A Quality management system can be designed as a series of interconnected processes, related to the maintenance and improvement of an organisation and to the whole life cycle of a product, from the formulation of the demand to the recycling of the realised product. Those processes concern the way of managing the different departments, the resources, the projects and their realisation. In the case of a project, I can follow your mind, the support process of the project is the quality planning.That is also true for the project management.</font> | ||
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| + | Non conformity management is at the end of an activity, when you look at the results, at the product; so it is a process NOT directly linked to quality planning (an output from one of the 2 processes doesn't go to the other process). | ||
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| + | <font color="blue">Comment: --[[User:Leonard|Leonard]] 16:43, 14 August 2008 (CEST) Anomaly can be detected throughout the project, in fact at every internal or external transfer of responsibility. Anomaly is not a non conformance but may result in a non conformance of the process, of the product or both. Therefore, I shall very soon propose an adapted chart.</font> | ||
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Conclusions: | Conclusions: | ||
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1) write "quality planning" instead of quality management | 1) write "quality planning" instead of quality management | ||
| - | 2) write "control of nonconforming product" instead of nonconformity management | + | |
| - | 3) keep the two processes distant, the first at the beginning, the second at the end | + | 2) write "control of nonconforming product" instead of "nonconformity" (management) |
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| + | 3) keep the two processes distant, the first at the beginning, the second at the end of the map | ||
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| + | 4) write "Project" instead of "Project management", because the process that has the deliverables as an output is the project, not the project management (the project management is the work of the project manager, the project is the work of the team) | ||
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| + | 5) try to identify the inputs and the outputs of each process and connect the processes through the inputs/outputs | ||
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| + | [[User:Fiorentin|Fiorentin]] 17:07, 14 July 2008 (CEST) | ||
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| + | == SECOND COMMENT HERE == | ||
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| + | == THIRD COMMENT HERE == | ||
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| + | == FOURTH COMMENT HERE == | ||
| + | some other text again, a table of content is automatically created with the fourth section | ||
Latest revision as of 16:43, 14 August 2008
Contents |
COMMENTS ABOUT THE MAP OF THE PROCESSES
Quality Management is not a support process, it is the work done by the role of the quality manager.
Quality Management starts from the contract requirements, it is developed during all the project stages, includes suppliers organizations and supplies, includes the design process, the fabrication process, the delivery process, includes the way in which the project satisfies the customer needs and requirements; includes also HR management, risk management and improvement of the organization, in practice all the processes.
Quality Management uses Project Management as a tool to obtain quality results.
In my proposed skeleton (Powerpoint Presentation) there was a "quality planning" support process, which is different from quality management; it is defining (and planning) the processes that will be used during the project to obtain quality.
Comment: --Leonard 16:43, 14 August 2008 (CEST) A Quality management system can be designed as a series of interconnected processes, related to the maintenance and improvement of an organisation and to the whole life cycle of a product, from the formulation of the demand to the recycling of the realised product. Those processes concern the way of managing the different departments, the resources, the projects and their realisation. In the case of a project, I can follow your mind, the support process of the project is the quality planning.That is also true for the project management.
Non conformity management is at the end of an activity, when you look at the results, at the product; so it is a process NOT directly linked to quality planning (an output from one of the 2 processes doesn't go to the other process).
Comment: --Leonard 16:43, 14 August 2008 (CEST) Anomaly can be detected throughout the project, in fact at every internal or external transfer of responsibility. Anomaly is not a non conformance but may result in a non conformance of the process, of the product or both. Therefore, I shall very soon propose an adapted chart.
Conclusions:
1) write "quality planning" instead of quality management
2) write "control of nonconforming product" instead of "nonconformity" (management)
3) keep the two processes distant, the first at the beginning, the second at the end of the map
4) write "Project" instead of "Project management", because the process that has the deliverables as an output is the project, not the project management (the project management is the work of the project manager, the project is the work of the team)
5) try to identify the inputs and the outputs of each process and connect the processes through the inputs/outputs
Fiorentin 17:07, 14 July 2008 (CEST)
SECOND COMMENT HERE
some text
THIRD COMMENT HERE
some other text
FOURTH COMMENT HERE
some other text again, a table of content is automatically created with the fourth section
